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I think it's OK and if I'm still in the mood, there are decent discounts and it's a similar drive to this one, I'll probably have one in 2/3 years. There's nothing that overly excites me about it, so I'd not move before then.
 
moulin12 said:
Manc M135i said:
Deadeye said:
If you say so.

Let's see how it drives after jumping straight out of our current M2s.

Not having been jollied over to Spain having not driven the original (not LCI) for 2 years.
I fully respect that, my point being that many here seem very quick to talk it down. Yet this has the makings to be one of the best coupes BMW have ever produced.

Don't like the wheels, it's gonna sound crap, I don't need more power, new seats are too big, don't like the new grill, doesn't look as agressive as the current M2, the carbon strut brace looks like a toilet... And so on!

Not trolling just a stark observation having read the last 3 pages.
A surprise for me though is that a detuned the S55 is returning 0-60 figures the same as the N55 M2, and just 0.2 sec faster than a m240i, though of course it's the engine characteristics that matter just as much, and I appreciate that they have to leave some room for when they want to give the sales a boost next time round.
Traction, traction, traction.

Although BMW are renowned for playing down figures.

Another reason the comp might not be as "good" (depending on your definition of good of course). My M3 was useless up to 50mph. A rocket after.
 
The only negatives of the M2C for me are the new front grilles and the optional wheels. Spec the original 19's and the grilles would be something I'd get used too. I prefer the n55 sound over the s55 but it still sounds good and a much more tuneable engine.

The current M2 is neck and neck in a straight line with the 240 which obviously makes the 240 owners question the purpose of the regular M2. Those that judge the M2 like this are probably only interested in straight lines and motorway blasts however.

It will be interesting to see what the finance deals are like in a few years time on the M2C. Most likely a repeat of the current pre reg deals we were all treated too.
 
DaleB90 said:
The only negatives of the M2C for me are the new front grilles and the optional wheels. Spec the original 19's and the grilles would be something I'd get used too. I prefer the n55 sound over the s55 but it still sounds good and a much more tuneable engine.

The current M2 is neck and neck in a straight line with the 240 which obviously makes the 240 owners question the purpose of the regular M2. Those that judge the M2 like this are probably only interested in straight lines and motorway blasts however.

It will be interesting to see what the finance deals are like in a few years time on the M2C. Most likely a repeat of the current pre reg deals we were all treated too.
Makes me laugh so much when M-Lite owners say there's no difference between them and an M2. :lol2:
 
The issue with the M2Comp for me is that it is maybe getting too close to the F80. The current M2 was a unique niche model using a tweaked N55 and it stood on it's own in the range. Now with the weight increase putting it almost level with the M4 and running a detuned M3/4 engine is it losing it's identity?
BMW have seen fit to introduce heavier rims and significantly heavier brakes on the upgrade option, car will be comfortably over 1,600kg's before options.

I have no issue with the S55 having lived with it in my F80 M3, it pulls like a train, sometimes sounds like one, and is a more bespoke "M" piece of kit than a tweaked N55. It has a lot more torque from standstill which can be exciting but also creates issues getting that transferred to the road surface as per the F80's. Ok ish in Summer but silly the rest of the year.

I think the unit and it's state of tune in the current M2 is pretty much spot on for what the car is trying to be, sounds great, revs pretty freely and doesn't suffer greatly with TC interventions.The fact that it runs side by side with a 240i to 100 is only half the story, in every other driving situation apart from jams it is by far the more satisfying proposition. I recently spent an hour driving a friends M240i - in isolation a great package - but it really did feel numb compared to the M2.

I will certainly test drive a comp once the feeding frenzy dies down and normal discounting resumes. If it is better overall then I will buy it but I have a feeling I will be sticking with what I have.
 
I still want an M2 ... though just got into my M3 E92 to move it back on the drive - and the sound of that engine really does make me question selling up to get an M2!

Do like the M2C though, and speaking to a guy tomorrow re one as apparently we get corporate discounts on them. Will def spec the original alloys though, always hated the comp alloys on the M3/4's previously.
 
napes5 said:
DaleB90 said:
The only negatives of the M2C for me are the new front grilles and the optional wheels. Spec the original 19's and the grilles would be something I'd get used too. I prefer the n55 sound over the s55 but it still sounds good and a much more tuneable engine.

The current M2 is neck and neck in a straight line with the 240 which obviously makes the 240 owners question the purpose of the regular M2. Those that judge the M2 like this are probably only interested in straight lines and motorway blasts however.

It will be interesting to see what the finance deals are like in a few years time on the M2C. Most likely a repeat of the current pre reg deals we were all treated too.
Makes me laugh so much when M-Lite owners say there's no difference between them and an M2. :lol2:
Where have you seen this?
 
moulin12 said:
napes5 said:
DaleB90 said:
The only negatives of the M2C for me are the new front grilles and the optional wheels. Spec the original 19's and the grilles would be something I'd get used too. I prefer the n55 sound over the s55 but it still sounds good and a much more tuneable engine.

The current M2 is neck and neck in a straight line with the 240 which obviously makes the 240 owners question the purpose of the regular M2. Those that judge the M2 like this are probably only interested in straight lines and motorway blasts however.

It will be interesting to see what the finance deals are like in a few years time on the M2C. Most likely a repeat of the current pre reg deals we were all treated too.
Makes me laugh so much when M-Lite owners say there's no difference between them and an M2. :lol2:
Where have you seen this?
Many times on this forum!
 
Always makes me cringe when forum members waffle on about 'proper M' engines.
If BMW see fit put an engine in an M car then it's an M engine. Full stop.
Personally I think my 130i has a nicer engine than the M2 but I'd never argue the M2's N55 isn't a proper M engine.
 
Ursy said:
I still want an M2 ... though just got into my M3 E92 to move it back on the drive - and the sound of that engine really does make me question selling up to get an M2!

Do like the M2C though, and speaking to a guy tomorrow re one as apparently we get corporate discounts on them. Will def spec the original alloys though, always hated the comp alloys on the M3/4's previously.
If engine or exhaust note is of any interest to you, the F80 M3 or new M2 Comp WILL disappoint on that front!

Current M2 however, great exhaust note. Everyone I know comments how much better it sounds than my M3.
 
swanny71 said:
Always makes me cringe when forum members waffle on about 'proper M' engines.
If BMW see fit put an engine in an M car then it's an M engine. Full stop.
Personally I think my 130i has a nicer engine than the M2 but I'd never argue the M2's N55 isn't a proper M engine.
130 engine? Really? I remember test driving one of those years ago and thought it was gutless - no turbo - no power. What's good about it?
 
Been speaking to a contact at BMW HQ this morning, been offered a pretty good deal i think.

List: ÂŁ51,800 inc options
OTR: ÂŁ44,509 price
Saving ÂŁ7,300

Now even more tempted!!
 
napes5 said:
swanny71 said:
Always makes me cringe when forum members waffle on about 'proper M' engines.
If BMW see fit put an engine in an M car then it's an M engine. Full stop.
Personally I think my 130i has a nicer engine than the M2 but I'd never argue the M2's N55 isn't a proper M engine.
130 engine? Really? I remember test driving one of those years ago and thought it was gutless - no turbo - no power. What's good about it?
It's not all about power mate - that N52 is smooth, sweet revving, bags of torque, sounds fantastic and the throttle response knocks all BMW turbo motors I've driven for six.
It's my opinion, you're entitled to yours so I'm not gonna argue with you,
 
swanny71 said:
napes5 said:
swanny71 said:
Always makes me cringe when forum members waffle on about 'proper M' engines.
If BMW see fit put an engine in an M car then it's an M engine. Full stop.
Personally I think my 130i has a nicer engine than the M2 but I'd never argue the M2's N55 isn't a proper M engine.
130 engine? Really? I remember test driving one of those years ago and thought it was gutless - no turbo - no power. What's good about it?
It's not all about power mate - that N52 is smooth, sweet revving, bags of torque, sounds fantastic and the throttle response knocks all BMW turbo motors I've driven for six.
It's my opinion, you're entitled to yours so I'm not gonna argue with you,
That's fine, not arguing, just interesting what motor characteristics people are drawn to.
 
Ursy said:
Been speaking to a contact at BMW HQ this morning, been offered a pretty good deal i think.

List: ÂŁ51,800 inc options
OTR: ÂŁ44,509 price
Saving ÂŁ7,300

Now even more tempted!!
Nice!

If it's not an Ursy exclusive offer it would be great if you could PM me your BMW contact as I'm not sure I'd be able to resist that deal :D
 
napes5 said:
moulin12 said:
napes5 said:
Makes me laugh so much when M-Lite owners say there's no difference between them and an M2. :lol2:
Where have you seen this?
Many times on this forum!
Okay, though tbh I'm not sure I've seen any. Seen plenty of posts arguing the merits of 240 vs M2 in terms of cost, daily driver and that sort of thing, but that's something different?
 
swanny71 said:
napes5 said:
swanny71 said:
Always makes me cringe when forum members waffle on about 'proper M' engines.
If BMW see fit put an engine in an M car then it's an M engine. Full stop.
Personally I think my 130i has a nicer engine than the M2 but I'd never argue the M2's N55 isn't a proper M engine.
130 engine? Really? I remember test driving one of those years ago and thought it was gutless - no turbo - no power. What's good about it?
It's not all about power mate - that N52 is smooth, sweet revving, bags of torque, sounds fantastic and the throttle response knocks all BMW turbo motors I've driven for six.
It's my opinion, you're entitled to yours so I'm not gonna argue with you,
I agree with you, sweet engine, great noise before all the fake in cabin crap we have now. We (Mrs Deadeye) had a 130i for 10 years then I gave her my M135i.
 
My 2c.....for what is worth.

I love my current 66 plate M2 and aim to keep it at least another 1+ year.
It has been the perfect car for me and I love owning it.

In another year or so it will be bought (pay GFV as only ÂŁ13k) and I will look at the M2C. But I may also look elsewhere (Porsche) - or may just keep hold of my M2 until I decide to move on and save up some ÂŁÂŁÂŁs.

I like the new M2C and if I was after a new car now I would definitely get one.
BUT the existing car is that good, I dont really want to get rid.

In addition, the one thing I personally never wish for is more power. I dont track the car and find the current power levels more than adequate for daily driving (which is what I do) and slightly hard work in winter/wet after years of owning quattros etc.

When I test drove the M4, i found the power a bit too on/off and really wouldnt fancy that much power on UK winter roads.

Just my 2p......

I still may end up in a M2c, but am not in any great rush to check one out. I realised quite some time ago, that always chasing the next 'new shiney' is a futile task in the modern world. Car/phone/watch/whatever.
Its the crack cocaine of consumer society when combined with the internet.
 
Nice!

If it's not an Ursy exclusive offer it would be great if you could PM me your BMW contact as I'm not sure I'd be able to resist that deal :D
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Sadly its a staff offer :(
 
Ursy said:
Sadly its a staff offer :(
It's a great deal so if u can afford it, go for it dude!

You lucky :censored2:

:D

At some point dealerships will start offering discounts, I'm waiting patiently.

If your contact would like a quick and easy sale you know where I am!
 
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