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#1 ·
Hi All,

Stupid question.......I have a noise from the near side of the car......think it's coming from the B pillar area. Before I do too much I was going to treat the door seals with gummi pflege.

Is it ok to use on the felt top edges of the door seals and will it cause any issues with the paint work?

Ta,
 
#3 ·
That's what I do whenever I wash my car (at least 1 time per month in the summer, a little less in the winter) - no problems with the felt part, I tend to soak it all.

Aditionally, I treat the body part that comes in contact with the seal/felt with a liquid meant to use for rubbing clay bars.

It eliminates the noises completely... They eventually come back by the time I need to wash the car again and repeat.
 
#4 ·
When you say noises, like the squeaky noises as door moves in aperture?

My F30 was silent, then I had it detailed and it made the noise.

I just cleaned all door aperture surfaces off again and voila, no more noise again.

I used Carpro Eraser to remove whatever the detailer had put on.

Personally I don't think door rubbers inside need protection, just cleaning. UV shouldn't get in the door gaps to cause rubber failure.
 
#5 ·
It's a known issue of our cars and other series - the rubber seals and/or felt tend to get noisy rubbing against the body, when the body flexes...

There's a bmw fix for it, which consists in taping the body part contacting the rubber seals with some special Teflon tape... (Google "Teflon tape door bmw" )

I don't like that solution - while it may be more durable (some report months to a year without noises), it tends to eventually come back, plus it's too visible for my taste.
 
#6 ·
Thanks for all the advice. The noise is a click/creak. My last 1 series made creaking noises and I cleaned the felt/door seals with a weak washing up liquid and water mix which solved it for months.

This car has been great until the last few months. I have sat on the passenger side and hear the noise but very difficult to pin down. I thought to start logically I would do the felt/seals. If the noise was still there there then look at one area at a time.

I would hope BMW would help under warranty and I may have to ask them to look at it. Anyone had them refuse to help?

Ta
 
#7 ·
tonirai said:
It's a known issue of our cars and other series - the rubber seals and/or felt tend to get noisy rubbing against the body, when the body flexes...

There's a bmw fix for it, which consists in taping the body part contacting the rubber seals with some special Teflon tape... (Google "Teflon tape door bmw" )

I don't like that solution - while it may be more durable (some report months to a year without noises), it tends to eventually come back, plus it's too visible for my taste.
The body on your car flexes??? :eek2:
 
#10 ·
tonirai said:
Ezzra said:
The body on your car flexes??? :eek2:
The body OF the car... The body ON the car is a different issue [emoji16]
All car bodies flex subject to dynamic forces... It's material mechanics 1 on 1. We are talking decimal of mm, of course - enough to cause that creaking as it moves and rubs.
I think you'll find it's more likely to be the movement of the door on the hinge :)
 
#13 ·
tonirai said:
Ezzra said:
I think you'll find it's more likely to be the movement of the door on the hinge :)
Caused by? That's it, you got it [emoji6]
The door moving on the hinge and moving against the rubber, causing the noise. To get the body to flex you'd need to put alot of torsional stress on it. You just don't get this kind of stress driving at low speed, when these noises are most noticeable. :)
 
#14 ·
Ezzra said:
tonirai said:
Ezzra said:
I think you'll find it's more likely to be the movement of the door on the hinge :)
Caused by? That's it, you got it [emoji6]
The door moving on the hinge and moving against the rubber, causing the noise. To get the body to flex you'd need to put alot of torsional stress on it. You just don't get this kind of stress driving at low speed, when these noises are most noticeable. :)
Unless there's a problem with welds or bonding of the body panels that has been identified as a production fault.
 
#15 ·
Bumble said:
Ezzra said:
tonirai said:
Caused by? That's it, you got it [emoji6]
The door moving on the hinge and moving against the rubber, causing the noise. To get the body to flex you'd need to put alot of torsional stress on it. You just don't get this kind of stress driving at low speed, when these noises are most noticeable. :)
Unless there's a problem with welds or bonding of the body panels that has been identified as a production fault.
Indeed. But if there's a problem with the panels themselves, I'd be back to BMW not trying to cover the problem with some rubber lube :)