Camber plates make arch clearance, moving the top of the strut inwards. Ideal for wide wheel/tyre set-ups. Adjustable to whatever setting you favour. Can increase NVH though.

Longer wishbones push the wheels out, reducing arch clearance (and gaining a fixed amount of negative camber as a side effect). M4 arms come with better bushes, but they don't increase NVH excessively.

 

Camber plates make arch clearance, moving the top of the strut inwards. Ideal for wide wheel/tyre set-ups. Adjustable to whatever setting you favour. Can increase NVH though.

Longer wishbones push the wheels out, reducing arch clearance (and gaining a fixed amount of negative camber as a side effect). M4 arms come with better bushes, but they don't increase NVH excessively.

Thanks MP.

I've got your suggestions for the alloy setup Just unsure between design with 8 or 8'5 at the front
I'll let you know how everything goes in a few weeks!

So, you reckon even the Street MIllways with poly gasket would cause lots of NVH?

 

Is there anyone with the Millway camber Street plates installed on their car? Did you go with the F8X arms path as well?

From what I can see you get better feedback with arms ball joints, though they have spacers fitted!

The track increase gained with the arms sounds good but eventually they will move the wheel 5/10mm forward. I'm planning on fitting wider front AD08 (semi-slick) tyres on a 8" set possibly with 235/40 and I'm concerned about the clearance.

Any suggestions? Will I have any clearance issues with the arms

Cheers

If you are concerned about NVH then F8x LCA is yr best bet. You get oem monoball bushing more fixed camber, track width and caster.

If you are concerned about wheel position being moved forward within the wheel arch then adding F8x TS fixes that issue.

You can buy a complete kit of F8x arms from DW Performance

If you want more than -2deg and want to run 8"-8.5" wide front tyres then Mway street camber plates are a good option as their NVH should be less than other brands.

HTH BP

 

Just to add my 2 cents....

I have 8J et40 wheels with F8x arms set. I run 235/40 tyres on track and had to have front wheel arches flared to clear. I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

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I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

N'fan,

Sub'd for yr feedback assuming you do decide to flip from F8x arms to stock arms and M'way CP's....

BP

 

Is there anyone with the Millway camber Street plates installed on their car? Did you go with the F8X arms path as well?

Vic - judging by what @Tangogolf has just sold used on BB (F8x LCA's and M'way street CP's) - it might be worth tapping him directly for how this combination worked on his car. HTH, BP

 

Hi Vic M140,

As BP has mentioned Ive just sold LCA's and Millway Camber Plates (OG non Street version) to 2 different buyers. (They'd made the decision your trying to make?) I couldnt decide and bought both! I was concerned the LCA on their own wouldn't be enough. I was running 2.0 degrees of camber and the tyres wore perfectly on just fast b roads and motorways which surprised me. It would oversteer everywhere and was frightening in the wet or winter! I did make a slight adjustment to toe (straight ahead on the rear from memory) which calmed the oversteer down.

By the sounds of it just the LCA's would be fine for you. If you are concerned that the wheel will sit slightly forward you can add the Tension struts I believe which will bring the wheel back to normal central position. I wasn't bothered as I had clearance and the added castor felt nice.

I'm not sure on clearance for your semi slicks, but I ran 235 goodyear up front on a 8" wheel with no issues. TBF my Bilstein B16's were set quite high. You'll have to trial fit there.

Part of the fun with modifying I find is the changes you notice and feel and maybe your best to start with just the LCA's, which I probably should have done.

Finally to add, its amazing how my old M135i feels so similar to the M3 by just changing the LCA's. Totally different car but he LCA's are very noticable in feel.

Good luck with your choices!

 

I've just bought said camber plates from tangogolf. Will be fitting to my KW V1 coilovers which are set with a decent drop all round.

I'm running 8j all round but only 225 up front. If you can wait for my install I could try my rears (245/35) on the front axle to check for rubbing.

Camber plates will be going on in 2-3 weeks then I can feedback. Need to get some other arms/bushes in the stockpile to give the front end a refresh before an alignment though hence the slight delay

 

I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

N'fan,

Sub'd for yr feedback assuming you do decide to flip from F8x arms to stock arms and M'way CP's....

BP

Nothing against the M4 LCA + TS, they perform well and give a good level of neg camber. It's just that I'm limited to 8J rims on the front. If I go back to (re-bushed) stock I can fit at least 8.5J and genuine 245 R comp tyres.
Either that or wide arch and 10J's

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Nothing against the M4 LCA + TS, they perform well and give a good level of neg camber. It's just that I'm limited to 8J rims on the front. If I go back to (re-bushed) stock I can fit at least 8.5J and genuine 245 R comp tyres.
Either that or wide arch and 10J's

Considering going 10" rear onto the front of my m2 cw 20mm spacer for F/R tyre combo 275/295 35 18

 

Thanks everyone for the advise. I've decided to go for the Lemforder kit and see how the car performs. I will keep you updated!

 

Thanks everyone for the advise. I've decided to go for the Lemforder kit and see how the car performs. I will keep you updated!

Good choice....

 

Just to add my 2 cents....

I have 8J et40 wheels with F8x arms set. I run 235/40 tyres on track and had to have front wheel arches flared to clear. I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

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Hey Nisfan,

I'm fitting the F8x arms tomorrow.

My new set of wheels come in 8.0ET40 or ET42.
I'm thinking of going with 235/40 Ad08 or Bridgestone RE -71rs.

Which tyres did you fit? Do you have much room left from the front struts?

I don't really know which one is better.

Thanks!

 

Just to add my 2 cents....

I have 8J et40 wheels with F8x arms set. I run 235/40 tyres on track and had to have front wheel arches flared to clear. I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

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Hey Nisfan,

I'm fitting the F8x arms tomorrow.

My new set of wheels come in 8.0ET40 or ET42.
I'm thinking of going with 235/40 Ad08 or Bridgestone RE -71rs.

Which tyres did you fit? Do you have much room left from the front struts?

I don't really know which one is better.

Thanks!

With LCA's and et 40 or 42 - I'd opt for 245/35/18 up front as you'll have plenty of inner clearance and less o/a rolling dia than 235/40 tyre so less chance of rubbing.

If running same tyres F&R allows you the option to rotate tyres between F&R axles

 

Just to add my 2 cents....

I have 8J et40 wheels with F8x arms set. I run 235/40 tyres on track and had to have front wheel arches flared to clear. I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

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Hey Nisfan,

I'm fitting the F8x arms tomorrow.

My new set of wheels come in 8.0ET40 or ET42.
I'm thinking of going with 235/40 Ad08 or Bridgestone RE -71rs.

Which tyres did you fit? Do you have much room left from the front struts?

I don't really know which one is better.

Thanks!

Hey,

With ET40 I have plenty of clearance to strut. I think both 40 and 42 will be fine.

Tyres I've used are either MPSS 245/35 or 235/40 Nankang's. I'm going to be trying AD08 soon.

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Just to add my 2 cents....

I have 8J et40 wheels with F8x arms set. I run 235/40 tyres on track and had to have front wheel arches flared to clear. I'm considering your other option, back to standard arms but with Millway streets camber plates.

I'm told the street version is much better than mono ball versions.

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Hey Nisfan,

I'm fitting the F8x arms tomorrow.

My new set of wheels come in 8.0ET40 or ET42.
I'm thinking of going with 235/40 Ad08 or Bridgestone RE -71rs.

Which tyres did you fit? Do you have much room left from the front struts?

I don't really know which one is better.

Thanks!

Hey,

With ET40 I have plenty of clearance to strut. I think both 40 and 42 will be fine.

Tyres I've used are either MPSS 245/35 or 235/40 Nankang's. I'm going to be trying AD08 soon.

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Amazign
Thanks Nisfan,

How many mms you reckon you have from the strut with the 235/40 and 245/35?
hopefully ET42 front would be still a safe choice
The 235/40 should be wider than 245/35 PSS right?

Thanks

 

It's not an easy measurement. But I'd say 5mm between tyre and strut. I am using Bilstein struts, but they are if anything, wider than stock.

Both tyres sizes about the same, because the 235 are proper square should track oriented tyres.

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