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[E82 120d] Diagnosing poor running after intake clean and glow plug replacement

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#1 ·
Hey all,

In an attempt to perform some preventative maintenance I've ended up making my car run worse. My 2009 E82 120d has just crossed 130k miles so I thought it was overdue some new glow plugs, after battling to get them out I've finally got the new ones in and all the pieces back together. But now my car runs worse than before I started this endeavour. While I had the intake off to replace the glow plugs I also cleaned the intake from the oily sutty sludge that was in there with the pressure washer. The intake has a fair amount of slop in the swirl flap rod where it meets the actuator, this is 100% a boost leak but I don't really want to perform a swirl flap delete as I don't particularly want to lose any low-end torque, but perhaps that's the lesser of two evils between that and a boost leak. During this cleaning process, I noticed the anti-shudder valve was pretty crunchy to actuate by hand, and when it came to fitting it back to the car I'm pretty sure the motor won't be moving it, so this could be contributing to my issue, but I thought this was only used on engine cut off.

When I first started the car after putting everything back together it was really hesitant to start and I had to crank it for quite a while. When it did eventually fire up it sounded awful, but I put this down to likely having some water end up in the combustion chamber from the recently cleaned intake? There was lots of (blue-ish) exhaust smoke at this point, but after a short run this has mostly cleared up and the engine runs far better than when first started. But on a cold start, the engine is really shaky, enough the vibrate the whole car, it didn't do this before I opened anything up. Under hard acceleration the exhaust releases a light smoke ploom, not rolling coal, but closer than before. Reading the engine codes, I get glow plug activation faults for cylinders 1, 2, 4 where before I had errors on 1, 3. I also have a code for Oil level, but I've just put 5.2L of 5w-30 in, and it's 3/4 of the way to the top mark on the dip-stick, fault sensor? And now sometimes I get a code for DDE smooth running controller, but this isn't currently active.

Active engine codes:
00498E - DDE: Oil-level sensor
004A3E - DDE: Glow plug, Cylinder 4, activation
004A5E - DDE: Glow plug, Cylinder 2, activation
004A6E - DDE: Glow plug, Cylinder 1, activation


Possibilities:
Faulty glow plug replay/control unit
Swirl flap actuator, now cleaned allows more boost to escape without ECU knowing causing more fuel than required being injected
Fallen carbon from cleaning clogged injector

Running an injector quantity test, cylinder 4 is an outlier at 4.3 mg/stroke with other cylinders being -1 to -1.9
1: -1.5
2: -1.9
3: 4.3
4: -1.0

What do you guys think some of my issues could be caused by?
 
#2 ·
How hard was to remove glow plugs? What new glow plug did you insert? Did you change proper glow plug unit? It is fail for sure. Buy BERU GSE 105 or better HUCU for N47 engine. M47 is diferent unit, so do not buy unit for.

Sometning is bad with cylinder 3 or injector, because 4.3mg is way to big. Did you insert glow plug properly? If it was hard to remove glow plug did you clean thread? New glow plugs was inserted easy or it was hard?

Minus on rest cylinder is trying to help positive on third cylinder, but do not drive the car cause to much duesel is runining on third cylinder. You can damge your engine.
 
#3 ·
How hard was to remove glow plugs? What new glow plug did you insert? Did you change proper glow plug unit? It is fail for sure. Buy BERU GSE 105 or better HUCU for N47 engine. M47 is diferent unit, so do not buy unit for.

Sometning is bad with cylinder 3 or injector, because 4.3mg is way to big. Did you insert glow plug properly? If it was hard to remove glow plug did you clean thread? New glow plugs was inserted easy or it was hard?

Minus on rest cylinder is trying to help positive on third cylinder, but do not drive the car cause to much duesel is runining on third cylinder. You can damge your engine.
The first one came out alright, just working it slowly in and out. #2 was going fine most of the way until it just gave way and snapped. #3 was no fuss but #4 was much the same as #2, false hope and then snapped. After drilling out the core, tapping the glow plug itself and extracting it, the factory hole was chased with a tap to clean up the threads. Well, that was for cyl #3 at least, #4 needed to be drilled and helicoiled. I installed a set of Bosch glow plugs, I believe 0 250 603 006 is the item code, but I didn't change the control unit. Strangely enough, the 004A3E errors are no longer listed as present in the ECU.

I think I'm going to take it all apart again and figure out why the anti-shudder valve is stuck. I know a local scrapyard has an intake with the swirl flap delete performed, I might swap that on because I don't really like the idea of the boost leak with all that oily sutty charge air. I don't really know how what I've done to the engine could've affected the injector in cylinder 3 and I'm hoping I can see something wrong before I go to the expense and effort of replacing any injectors.

Know of any other tests I can run to get more insight into my issues? Done some coding with NCSExpert but I don't know my way around ISTA or INPA yet.
 
#4 ·
Oooh, looking back at my original injector test screenshot, In my first post I mis-listed the results, I listed them as 1, 2, 3, 4 but ISTA lists them as 1, 3, 4, 2
So the values are
Cylinder 1: -1.5
Cylinder 3: -1.9
Cylinder 4: 4.3
Cylinder 2: -1.0

So perhaps the helicoil in cyl 4 is interfering, but I'm not sure how that'd affect the injector. If I recall correctly it felt like it seated fully.
 
#5 ·
With correction more than 3mg car will run bad. If it was ok before, you done something wrong. Maybe badly installed glow plugs. It is hard to say. Rest of minus try to compens one big positive on cylinder 4.
 
#7 ·
I've seen people online strongly suggest the BERU control unit over any other brand, is there any valid reason for this?
I only ask because all the BERU units are out of stock everywhere but Ebay, and I don't 100% trust they'd be genuine from Ebay.
I can only find MEAT & DORIA and HITACHI glow plug control units.
 
#10 ·
Yes. This one is for N47.
HUCO 132193 - for N47 - BERU GSE105
HUCO 132196 - for M47 - BERU GSE101
In most cases problem is with connection from board to pins. Sometimes transistores are short. If you got error 4474 and 4479 in N47 or N57 it is hard to repair. Rest you can repair. Hard thing is to open glow unit without damage cover, cause you have to close unit after repair. Next remove glue and old connection, clean solder pads. Measure if transistors are ok. Next make new connection and add new glue. Next seal and close unit. After repair it looks like new.