Guys,
Tell me something, is DTC on when the light is on? or off?
im confused!
Tell me something, is DTC on when the light is on? or off?
im confused!
You can't do that though, DSC (stability) is default, pressing the button momentarily turns off DSC but leaves DTC (traction control) on. The traction control activated when DSC is off is less intrusive though, lets the wheels slip/spin a bit more before cutting in.corgi said:The manual covers this...
My advice turn the traction control OFF and leave stability on for snow. To me the Traction control seems a little on the intrusive side...
One quick press of the DTC button - this will give you a little slip but not lots.felsteaduk said:So which is best for snow / icy roads?
DSC
DTC
NONE !!!
From my experience this is what happens:Locoblade said:You can't do that though, DSC (stability) is default, pressing the button momentarily turns off DSC but leaves DTC (traction control) on. The traction control activated when DSC is off is less intrusive though, lets the wheels slip/spin a bit more before cutting in.
Exactly as I understood it from reading the manual, one quick press of the DTC button turns the traction control off and leaves the stability control engaged. A little slip in snow is useful...verysideways said:One quick press of the DTC button - this will give you a little slip but not lots.felsteaduk said:So which is best for snow / icy roads?
DSC
DTC
NONE !!!
Ultimately if you get lots of wheelspin in snow you've messed up already![]()
You could be right, thats not how I understood it though and not how Verysideways has explained it earlier in the thread. I always thought that DSC is switched off (or toned down) with a push of the button which means it doesn't intervene so enthusiastically, which in turn means the first thing to reign you in is the traction control rather than the stability control.benjamin84 said:From my experience this is what happens:Locoblade said:You can't do that though, DSC (stability) is default, pressing the button momentarily turns off DSC but leaves DTC (traction control) on. The traction control activated when DSC is off is less intrusive though, lets the wheels slip/spin a bit more before cutting in.
DSC (default): Both stability and traction control on
DTC (one press): Stability on, traction off. If you keep the car straight you can spin the rears as much as you want, if it goes sideways past a certain point the stability control will step in.
Off (long press): You're on your ownSadly not ideal for snow as it will let one rear wheel spin uncontrollably which compromises traction.
My conclusion is that DTC is the best on snow, it will stop one-wheel-spin, acting like a primitive limited slip diff, and will allow you to slide around a little without cutting engine power.
You are right, the problem is the names are somewhat misleading. What Dynamic Traction Control actually does is what I described above, it will allow wheel spin as long as it doesn't think you are "out of control", in other words it will step in only when things get too sideways.verysideways said:If you read the manual:
1. DSC is the default setting.
2. When you do a quick press of the DTC button you are turning Dynamic Stability Control OFF and turning Dynamic Traction Control ON.
3. If you press and hold the button for 10 seconds you are turning both DTC/DSC OFF.
DSC is all consuming
DTC will let you do a little slippy slidey
Both off will let you crash the car if you want to![]()
I have tried this quite extensively on snow. Wheel spin is allowed, but with two conditions:Locoblade said:You could be right, thats not how I understood it though and not how Verysideways has explained it earlier in the thread. I always thought that DSC is switched off (or toned down) with a push of the button which means it doesn't intervene so enthusiastically, which in turn means the first thing to reign you in is the traction control rather than the stability control.
One way to test would be to press the button quickly then try a fast standing start in the wet. If you're correct you should get rampant wheelspin because the car will be straight so DSC won't be having a panic, and DTC will be off. I think though you'll find traction control still kicks in.
Will give it a go tomorrow if it's wet and I can find a suitably quiet bit of private road.