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Discussion starter · #21 ·
olda47 said:
Mooeeey, just an idea. If you can lift the trim far enough to pack in there some soft sponge ruber (foam) to secure the wiring, it often does the trick. Anyway, I think it´s worth trying.......and saves you from ripping the trim completely off.
I've taken the plastic bit of trim off tonight. Lots of wires, but none of them the pulpit. Going to remove the rear speaker and surrounding trim tomorrow.
 
Mooeeey, the visual check is the one thing and the dynamic check is an another. Therefore, try to drive your usual tight right hander with the trim off and see, if you can generate the noise. If the noise is stil there, you have eliminated one variable. Then proceed with the removal of speaker and the trim. Repeat the procedure. Visul and dynamic. Good luck!
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
olda47 said:
Mooeeey, the visual check is the one thing and the dynamic check is an another. Therefore, try to drive your usual tight right hander with the trim off and see, if you can generate the noise. If the noise is stil there, you have eliminated one variable. Then proceed with the removal of speaker and the trim. Repeat the procedure. Visul and dynamic. Good luck!
Had a go this afternoon with the trim off, and all the other bits too (parcel shelf, bootlid trim, etc) the noise is still there :( had another friend sit in the back and listen who thinks it's suspension related.

Anyway I've semi given up and booked it in with the dealer. I also somehow managed to damage the taillight (small bit on the boot lid part only). A small bit of plastic has broken off (holding the light neatly inline with the body), so the light doesn't sit flush with the body. So best case it might be this I need 63217435200 (small cover thing) or worst case the whole light 63217359019. My own fault totally.

Here's a video of the noise. Added a crude visual indicator (red dot) to identify when the noise I am talking about happens.


Hopefully the dealer will be able to locate the noise.

Thanks everyone for your input so far. Very much appreciated.
 
Hi, after seeing your VC and listening to the random ticking noise, I went to check my car to familiarize myself with the set up.
Area, RR suspension inner garnish, is a drum like feature, ideal to transfer and resonate any abnormal noise coming from anywhere in the quarter panel/wheel housing/suspension turret area. The noise could even be related to a faulty spot weld.
I think, you´ve done the right thing to let the dealer to take it from there. Please, don´t forget to let me/us know, how you went. Good luck!
 
Discussion starter · #25 ·
olda47 said:
Hi, after seeing your VC and listening to the random ticking noise, I went to check my car to familiarize myself with the set up.
Area, RR suspension inner garnish, is a drum like feature, ideal to transfer and resonate any abnormal noise coming from anywhere in the quarter panel/wheel housing/suspension turret area. The noise could even be related to a faulty spot weld.
I think, you´ve done the right thing to let the dealer to take it from there. Please, don´t forget to let me/us know, how you went. Good luck!
I have the car booked in mid May when I have a break in my schedule. So I will let you know how I get on shortly after hopefully :)
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Update:
Dropped the car off this morning at the dealer. Call late afternoon to say they've fixed the rattle. Apparently it was the boot latch that needed adjusting, as well as the two stoppers that adjust how close/far away the boot lid is from the body. They said it was two separate noises that could be heard, two issues, both fixed...

However... 15 minutes into my journey home, the rattle was back, just as loud and annoying as before.

I'm going to call them in the morning to see if they can look at it again.
 
Oh no :banghead:

That has got to be one of the most infuriating things that can happen; being told it's fixed and it returns :censored2:

Hope you get there eventually, but now the dealer has hopefully identified the area the rattle is originating from, you might be able to get on top of it.

Good luck and only hope you aren't too disappointed at the moment?
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
midlifecrisis said:
Oh no :banghead:

That has got to be one of the most infuriating things that can happen; being told it's fixed and it returns :censored2:

Hope you get there eventually, but now the dealer has hopefully identified the area the rattle is originating from, you might be able to get on top of it.

Good luck and only hope you aren't too disappointed at the moment?
Thanks, I am pretty disappointed. The dealer is going to take another look at it in a couple of weeks time (when I'm next free). They were very apologetic and offered to pick the car up from my home and leave me something to use.
 
I had a rattle on my car from what I thought was behind the c pillar, I took the plastic off and tightened and put material tape on anything I thought could be an issue.

In the end it turned out to be the belt retractor mechanism, I kept the belt clipped in for a while which stopped it, then I showed my dealer what the issue was and they replaced the seat belt.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
s2rv said:
I had a rattle on my car from what I thought was behind the c pillar, I took the plastic off and tightened and put material tape on anything I thought could be an issue.

In the end it turned out to be the belt retractor mechanism, I kept the belt clipped in for a while which stopped it, then I showed my dealer what the issue was and they replaced the seat belt.
I'm glad you found it in the end. I've taped everything I could see that moved or had the slightest bit of give. Doesn't help that boot appears to be resonating the noise. I've sat in the boot while someone else drives to try and pin point it. I could have sworn it was coming from just above rear driver's side speaker, but now I don't know.
 
Mooeeey said:
s2rv said:
I had a rattle on my car from what I thought was behind the c pillar, I took the plastic off and tightened and put material tape on anything I thought could be an issue.

In the end it turned out to be the belt retractor mechanism, I kept the belt clipped in for a while which stopped it, then I showed my dealer what the issue was and they replaced the seat belt.
I'm glad you found it in the end. I've taped everything I could see that moved or had the slightest bit of give. Doesn't help that boot appears to be resonating the noise. I've sat in the boot while someone else drives to try and pin point it. I could have sworn it was coming from just above rear driver's side speaker, but now I don't know.
I had my girlfriend (plus myself as well) sitting in the boot trying to identify the rattle. We wrapped the boot catch, the catches for the rear seats, the c pillar and finally was found out to be the seat belt mechanism (we were convinced it was the c pillar). My car has just been one big rattle, but after 4.5 years I've solved them all. Most were behind the dash and transmission tunnel.

I found some rattles quite deceiving and hard to locate, such as I thought one was coming from the map reading light area actually turned out to be from the transition tunnel and the air vent pipes that run through it.

Good luck in finding the source! Try fastening the belt as what you described was exactly what I thought (c pillar)
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
s2rv said:
Mooeeey said:
s2rv said:
I had a rattle on my car from what I thought was behind the c pillar, I took the plastic off and tightened and put material tape on anything I thought could be an issue.

In the end it turned out to be the belt retractor mechanism, I kept the belt clipped in for a while which stopped it, then I showed my dealer what the issue was and they replaced the seat belt.
I'm glad you found it in the end. I've taped everything I could see that moved or had the slightest bit of give. Doesn't help that boot appears to be resonating the noise. I've sat in the boot while someone else drives to try and pin point it. I could have sworn it was coming from just above rear driver's side speaker, but now I don't know.
I had my girlfriend (plus myself as well) sitting in the boot trying to identify the rattle. We wrapped the boot catch, the catches for the rear seats, the c pillar and finally was found out to be the seat belt mechanism (we were convinced it was the c pillar). My car has just been one big rattle, but after 4.5 years I've solved them all. Most were behind the dash and transmission tunnel.

I found some rattles quite deceiving and hard to locate, such as I thought one was coming from the map reading light area actually turned out to be from the transition tunnel and the air vent pipes that run through it.

Good luck in finding the source! Try fastening the belt as what you described was exactly what I thought (c pillar)
Thank you. I'll give it a go :)
 
Thanks for the feedback. Be interesting to see, which way the dealer will go the next time. Also, disappointed to read, the dealer has not tested the car thoroughly after their first attempt. Good luck!
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Mooeeey said:
s2rv said:
Mooeeey said:
I'm glad you found it in the end. I've taped everything I could see that moved or had the slightest bit of give. Doesn't help that boot appears to be resonating the noise. I've sat in the boot while someone else drives to try and pin point it. I could have sworn it was coming from just above rear driver's side speaker, but now I don't know.
I had my girlfriend (plus myself as well) sitting in the boot trying to identify the rattle. We wrapped the boot catch, the catches for the rear seats, the c pillar and finally was found out to be the seat belt mechanism (we were convinced it was the c pillar). My car has just been one big rattle, but after 4.5 years I've solved them all. Most were behind the dash and transmission tunnel.

I found some rattles quite deceiving and hard to locate, such as I thought one was coming from the map reading light area actually turned out to be from the transition tunnel and the air vent pipes that run through it.

Good luck in finding the source! Try fastening the belt as what you described was exactly what I thought (c pillar)
Thank you. I'll give it a go :)
It's definitely nothing to do with the seat belt/mechanism. Tested it last night :(
 
Mooeeey said:
Mooeeey said:
s2rv said:
I had my girlfriend (plus myself as well) sitting in the boot trying to identify the rattle. We wrapped the boot catch, the catches for the rear seats, the c pillar and finally was found out to be the seat belt mechanism (we were convinced it was the c pillar). My car has just been one big rattle, but after 4.5 years I've solved them all. Most were behind the dash and transmission tunnel.

I found some rattles quite deceiving and hard to locate, such as I thought one was coming from the map reading light area actually turned out to be from the transition tunnel and the air vent pipes that run through it.

Good luck in finding the source! Try fastening the belt as what you described was exactly what I thought (c pillar)
Thank you. I'll give it a go :)
It's definitely nothing to do with the seat belt/mechanism. Tested it last night :(
Sorry to hear that it wasn't the seat belt mechanism. Good luck in your continuing quest for silence.....
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
olda47 said:
Thanks for the feedback. Be interesting to see, which way the dealer will go the next time. Also, disappointed to read, the dealer has not tested the car thoroughly after their first attempt. Good luck!
It's back in with the dealer on 1st June. I did tell them that I can't really work out a pattern to it and it comes and goes. Sometimes it's there as soon as you set off, other times it takes a couple of miles. The severity of the road surface doesn't appear to make a difference either, I had it rattling like crazy on a smooth road, then nothing on a rough bit and vice versa.

I still think it's behind the C pillar or whatever it's called there above/behind the rear driver's side speaker. My feeling is it's nothing to do with the boot, but they thought it was. It also sounds like a metal on metal noise or hard plastic on metal.

It's starting to really get on my nerves.
 
What happened to the "tight right-hander" story? Previously you told us, you could reproduce the noise. Does it mean, it´s no longer the case? Or are we talking a different noise now? I hope, the dealer will road test the car until the noise will come on, then strip the relevant interior trim and road test again until the noise comes on or doesn´t come on and take it from there. That´s what our abnormal noise investigating team would have done in this case. Good luck!
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
olda47 said:
What happened to the "tight right-hander" story? Previously you told us, you could reproduce the noise. Does it mean, it´s no longer the case? Or are we talking a different noise now? I hope, the dealer will road test the car until the noise will come on, then strip the relevant interior trim and road test again until the noise comes on or doesn´t come on and take it from there. That´s what our abnormal noise investigating team would have done in this case. Good luck!
I tried to recreate it a couple of times, but unfortunately I think it was just a coincidence. Cornering at any speed doesn't consistently create the noise. I can't find any meaningful pattern to it, other than it usually gets louder as the journey continues. Sometimes the first few miles there's nothing, other times it's there from the start, but much quieter.

I thought there was just one noise, but when they investigated it they they found another noise coming from the boot latch. To be honest I think they may have created the second one when fiddling about as I can't recall it, or it was super quiet.
 
OK. Don´t forget to insist with the dealer, to continue the investigation until the cause is identified, fixed and the fix is confirmed, ideally with you seating in the car. Good luck!
 
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