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PreLCI F20 AC control retrofit

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#1 ·
Hello everyone,

Seeing as I've been searching for some time without any success, I will bite the bullet and post my question.

Can I upgrade my AC control unit with an automatic simple climate control unit. Pictures for reference

My unit
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What I want to install
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Any help is much appreciated.
 
#3 ·
Fundamentally there are 2 versions of heater controls: basis and high. The high ones correspond to option 534 in the VO. The one you now want to fit is still a basis model & specified for cars that don't have option 534 (your old heater controls tell me you don't have 534) so will (in my opnion) work straight away. Keep us posted.
 
#4 ·
Sorry to hi-jack. I'm just interested. Is the only difference the numbers on the heater knob? I've seen a version with an LCD panel where the dmist button etc are. What's option 534?
 
#5 ·
Option 534 is the 2 zone climate control with the display - like this:
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The OP has single zone climate, and the main difference apart from the temperature numbers on the OP's post is the addition of an Auto button.

Climate control upgrades have been discussed many times though:

The general consensus is 'don't bother' going from the 1 zone climate control to the 2 zone (left/right) system as it's a case of ripping the dash out & fitting the full 2 zone kit, not just the control panel. But I stand by my earlier statement that replacing the older type 'basis' heater controls for the newer type basis controls should work. All you're adding it the Auto button, and there is no coding for the different parts in the VO. I can't comment on coding options within the appropriate module though.
I guess it depends where the cabin temperature sensor is. If it's in the controls, job done.
 
#6 ·
Ah thanks - I missed the auto button in the image. I'd be interested to know if this works djdelta. I'm surprised that my 12 year old Saab convertible has dual zone climate as standard yet my recently acquired 14 plate 118i sport has a very basic manual a/c.
 
#7 ·
Will see how it goes once it's delivered.

My research pointed me in the direction of "it should just work" but given the lack of information on this particular scenario it will be a test and see episode.

Will post updates when I have them.

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#9 ·
There are so many part numbers; it depends on whether you have heated seats or not, and whether you want the chrome surround or not, and whether you want temperature in C or F. The climate part unclips from the radio controls; you don't need both, but a lot of breakers sell both together as a unit. As such part numbers might be ambiguous.
The AUTO button appeared on LCI (facelift) cars, so the number for the heating controls only is:
Black Surround, No heated seats °C 64119384045
Black Surround, No heated seats °F 64119384049
Black Surround, Heated seats °C 64119384047
Black Surround, Heated seats °F 64119384051
Chrome Surround, No heated seats °C 64119384046
Chrome Surround, No heated seats °F 64119384050
Chrome Surround, Heated seats °C 64119384048
Chrome Surround, Heated seats °F 64119384052
 
#11 ·
BFleming said:
There are so many part numbers; it depends on whether you have heated seats or not, and whether you want the chrome surround or not, and whether you want temperature in C or F. The climate part unclips from the radio controls; you don't need both, but a lot of breakers sell both together as a unit. As such part numbers might be ambiguous.
The AUTO button appeared on LCI (facelift) cars, so the number for the heating controls only is:
Black Surround, No heated seats °C 64119384045
Black Surround, No heated seats °F 64119384049
Black Surround, Heated seats °C 64119384047
Black Surround, Heated seats °F 64119384051
Chrome Surround, No heated seats °C 64119384046
Chrome Surround, No heated seats °F 64119384050
Chrome Surround, Heated seats °C 64119384048
Chrome Surround, Heated seats °F 64119384052
Legend, cheers for that!
 
#13 ·
djdelta said:
So, quick update today. I have fitted the part but no luck, when I press the AUTO button, nothing happens. Even if the AC is on and blowing it just doesn't do anything. Steering to feel that it needs some coding to go with it.

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Possibly. Do you have e-sys? If so, it might be worth looking through some of the options to see if you can work it out. Otherwise if anyone else already has it as standard then they might be able to work out which option it is and let you know.

Hope you can sort it!
 
#17 ·
#19 ·
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
 
#74 ·
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
Great that it worked for you like that! Does anyone know the solution when with the above esys coding, the 1Z climate control panel still doesn’t work on a pre-lci f20 (2013)? The buttons barely react when you push them and the AUTO function doesn’t work neither. Seat heating is having its own life as well. I tried the climate control panel on a with 1Z climate control equipped F20 lci (201:cool2: and it worked straight away. Just to double check it, I have tried the original panel from the lci f20 also on the pre-lci f20, but the same malfunctions occur. Hope somebody got an idea what may cause the problem. Maybe adding an option code to the VO?
 
#20 ·
djdelta said:
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
Exvellent news. I'm looking to fit one in my car too so I'ts great to know it will work.
 
#21 ·
djdelta said:
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
Great stuff! Glad you got it sorted in the end and thanks for posting a link to the guide which explains everything.
 
#22 ·
fez_7 said:
djdelta said:
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
Great stuff! Glad you got it sorted in the end and thanks for posting a link to the guide which explains everything.
In all honesty I think someone should sticky this guy's walk-throughs as they are very good.
 
#23 ·
djdelta said:
fez_7 said:
djdelta said:
Late update.

IT'S ALIVE!

All in all it's a straight swap and a FDL recode of IHKA | 3000 | KLIMA_SG_ART from IHKR => IHKA_1Z

Best ÂŁ50 i've spent.

I wasn't very sure with the initial findings in terms of coding but then stumbled onto a guy's mission of doing his f20 which covers pretty much everything all of us would most likely retrofit.

right click ->translate is your friend in chrome

Cheers,
Florin
Great stuff! Glad you got it sorted in the end and thanks for posting a link to the guide which explains everything.
In all honesty I think someone should sticky this guy's walk-throughs as they are very good.
They really are! I didn't know he had so many, I've just saved a few to my favourites. I had already read his post on retrofitting HU_ENTRYNAV but his others are just as good and they have given me some ideas for the future.
 
#24 ·
That is an amazing write-up.

Does anyone here know anyone who does remote ESys coding? Who could do this tweak? I have the Climate Control panel, but am scared to go near the software side of things in fear of bricking my car.

I have cable to connect my car to laptop if that helps, which I assume works with all the coding softwares.

Wibbles did a great job on previous coding for me, but its my understanding from earlier post that he is not doing the climate work, but if this is incorrect then happy days.

Cheers

Rob
 
#25 ·
oxfordshirerob said:
That is an amazing write-up.

Does anyone here know anyone who does remote ESys coding? Who could do this tweak? I have the Climate Control panel, but am scared to go near the software side of things in fear of bricking my car.

I have cable to connect my car to laptop if that helps, which I assume works with all the coding softwares.

Wibbles did a great job on previous coding for me, but its my understanding from earlier post that he is not doing the climate work, but if this is incorrect then happy days.

Cheers

Rob
I initially spoke to him regarding this and he said that he's not aware of the code requirements.

As long as you have esys set up and working correctly then happy to do a teamviewer session and share the process.

PM me about timings.

Kind regards,
Florin

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#26 ·
djdelta said:
oxfordshirerob said:
That is an amazing write-up.

Does anyone here know anyone who does remote ESys coding? Who could do this tweak? I have the Climate Control panel, but am scared to go near the software side of things in fear of bricking my car.

I have cable to connect my car to laptop if that helps, which I assume works with all the coding softwares.

Wibbles did a great job on previous coding for me, but its my understanding from earlier post that he is not doing the climate work, but if this is incorrect then happy days.

Cheers

Rob
I initially spoke to him regarding this and he said that he's not aware of the code requirements.

As long as you have esys set up and working correctly then happy to do a teamviewer session and share the process.

PM me about timings.

Kind regards,
Florin

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Thanks Florin, waiting for the control unit to arrive, so once fitted I'll drop you a PM. Happy to fire control cash or beer your way for assistance. Cheers. Rob