To be fair, it should be stick v stick. On our 30-130mph days, a DSG variant was 2sec quicker over this distance.
Now let's put those 3 cars on a track and time them!
End of the day, hats off to all these guys for making US great hot hatches!
In gear there's nothing between DSG and manual. Having seen quite a few races between cars, I've never seen much difference other than when someone can't change the gears. I'm sure there will be loads of head to heads on YouTube. Any advantage will be the start and first one or two changes, but if you make a great start, you've overcome the launch controlled start. The Focus also has launch control.
There is no way that DSG makes a car with 50bhp less faster. 50bhp is like a remap to many cars where a huge leap in performance in noticeable.
That video above shows even in gear the Focus is slower than the Golf. It wasn't as if the Focus was pulling away until the gear shift and then the Golf caught up, the Golf was always catching and moving ahead once it negated the better start of the Focus.
The Golf R is timed at over 12 seconds for 0-100mph. The old N54 powered 335i/135i does the same with just RWD and a manual box. The Focus RS has 4wd and an extra 50bhp, so to be slower than a Golf R and 335i/135i is very disappointing.
The Civic Type R is manual and a number of the journalists said the Focus was noticeably slower. A 300bhp car shouldn't feel faster than a similar 350bhp car.
I read the Focus RS forum and they are devastated by this. The thread ended up getting locked as they got so upset over it.
It'll be interesting to see how it fairs on track, but most will never see the track, so it doesn't really matter for most.
As that video says hot hatches are all about bragging rights. Owners are obsessed with facts and figures. Fastest 0-60mph and drag times do matter so much to do many. After the 0-60mph time of the Focus was faster than the Golf and the 50bhp advantage, there was a lot of posts about how the Focus would blow it away. Clearly it doesn't at all.
The straight line performance of the Focus does appear to be very disappointing and that does matter a lot.