[l8rns]

Why not be the 'guinea pig' for this experiment l8rns? Crack your window halfway down and keep the key in the house. Go for a drive and see what happens?
I'm sure the car will drive till its empty of fuel but I could be wrong.

Thinking of it, would that affect stop start? Also, hot water on a frozen screen is asking for trouble? Sudden expansion and all that

I will do some testing after work this evening, as i am very very keen to know before i start doing it.

I do know that once the car is started it can be driven as far as you want it with no key but you cannot turn the car off,

My main thing is if you lock the car with the remote shouldnt the doors be deadlocked?

And if the car is started and alarmed can u still actually move the car and drive it .

So these are the things i will try later

 

[Tricky401]

Some cars like Range Rovers. You can program the heating to come on at a certain time! Must be the best function ever!!!

I'm fairly certain I can do something similar in my 1er, but that might just be with the air-con and not the heater. I certainly remember a feature like this, will look when I get home

you can heat or cool on the range. even turn on the seats or heated wheel remotely. the new disco you can even fold or unfold the rear seats remotely

 

[GeeDee]

All this is OK if on your drive (I think) but almost certainly illegal if on the street as you are not allowed to leave a car running with no driver under any circumstances. This was according to a policeman who stopped me a while back and I got out to speak to him.

 

[S3Bangs]

My main thing is if you lock the car with the remote shouldnt the doors be deadlocked?

And if the car is started and alarmed can u still actually move the car and drive it.

This is the reason why I suggested you leave the window half open to see what happens when you pull the door handle from inside.
Also, doesn't the alarm take a few seconds to be fully activated for interior movement detection? My old R32 used to do this.

Will try a few runs myself and see what happens as I'm slightly intrigued now.

 

[weasley]

All this is OK if on your drive (I think) but almost certainly illegal if on the street as you are not allowed to leave a car running with no driver under any circumstances. This was according to a policeman who stopped me a while back and I got out to speak to him.

If on the road, this is correct.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/107/made

covers it.

Leaving motor vehicles unattended

107.-(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall leave, or cause or permit to be left, on a road a motor vehicle which is not attended by a person licensed to drive it unless the engine is stopped and any parking brake with which the vehicle is required to be equipped is effectively set.

(2) The requirement specified in paragraph (1) as to the stopping of the engine shall not apply in respect of a vehicle-

(a) being used for ambulance, fire brigade or police purposes; or
(b) in such a position and condition as not to be likely to endanger any person or property and engaged in an operation which requires its engine to be used to-
(i) drive machinery forming part of, or mounted on, the vehicle and used for purposes other than driving the vehicle; or
(ii) maintain the electrical power of the batteries of the vehicle at a level required for driving that machinery or apparatus.
(3) In this regulation "parking brake" means a brake fitted to a vehicle in accordance with requirement 16 or 18 in Schedule 3.

You'll note this also requires you to apply the parking brake - parking in gear with no handbrake on is also an offence. I'd argue that the 'P' position on an automatic could be argued to be a parking brake, although this could be debatable.

The above does specifically apply "on a road" though, and there is no definition of what this means in the interpretations section. Some might argue that a publicly-accessible place might be considered to be the 'road', just as the Road Traffic Act applies even in private locations such as car parks etc, so long as they are reasonably accessible by the public.

 

[Sheetmaself]

We have a mini with comfort access so you would of thought fairly similar system. Was told by the salesman the car will keep moving without a key until it is turned off at which point you wont be able to restart it.

But worrying if one of you gets dropped off and has the key!!

 

[Nathan135i]

My main thing is if you lock the car with the remote shouldnt the doors be deadlocked?

And if the car is started and alarmed can u still actually move the car and drive it.

This is the reason why I suggested you leave the window half open to see what happens when you pull the door handle from inside.
Also, doesn't the alarm take a few seconds to be fully activated for interior movement detection? My old R32 used to do this.

Will try a few runs myself and see what happens as I'm slightly intrigued now.

I was told a double key press on the remote disables the alarm. Not sure if its just interior.

 

[GeeDee]

I was told a double key press on the remote disables the alarm. Not sure if its just interior.

You're right - it disables the interior sensors for when you're leaving the sunroof/windows open. At least, that's what I do and my alarm hasn't been triggered from an open sunroof/windows yet.

 

[G0tcha]

Idling issues aside I can't see too many issues, i tried the remote ventilation on the phone app and it does open the vents but its no de-icing / misting solution and their appears to be no option to preset the window demister for instance. On the security front, I started the car, got out to put lil one in her car seat and when I got back in the car, there was a key not present warning and it would not select drive. It cleared itself in a few secs, I guess when the key re-sync'd and I was on my way.

 

[l8rns]

Just got home, pulled up on the drive, opened my window half way , left the car running and got out and locked the car,

Come back after around 2 mins ,put my hand through the window opened the door with out unlocking it on the fob no problems.

BUT i realised i had my key in my pocket still when i went to open the door without unlocking the car......

 

[moulin12]

Can't help with the issue at hand but they say it's not good to leave an engine idling to warm it up. Just to get in and move off, taking it easy for the first 10 mins or so.

Yes, handbook specifically advises not to leave the car to warm up on starting but to immediately drive away. Someone on here - possibly marco polo - mention that it's bad for the camshaft?

 

[MrMalone]

Unless things have changed these days, you won't be insured if someone did steal your car while you'd left it with the engine running - whether you had locked it or not. We had a turbo timer on an old Evo when it got imported from Japan and no insurers would insure it against theft if it was found to have been stolen while the turbo timer was still engaged. (If anyone doesn't know, a turbo timer is basically an ignition delay to let the turbo etc cool down before the engine turns off - so you take the key out, lock the car and walk off, but the engine will still run for a set amount of time)

 

[GaryB1972]

Can't help with the issue at hand but they say it's not good to leave an engine idling to warm it up. Just to get in and move off, taking it easy for the first 10 mins or so.

Yes, handbook specifically advises not to leave the car to warm up on starting but to immediately drive away. Someone on here - possibly marco polo - mention that it's bad for the camshaft?

Not always possible to drive away, it takes a while to clear the windscreen. So there will always be a time Autumn/winter when you can not just drive away!! I fail to see how this can harm an engine

M140i Ordered

 

[rusty13]

If you drive off without the key present the engine will never turn off. The thief would not however be able to restart the car. He'd just have a pestering warning on the dash saying that the key isn't present while he is driving it.

 

[Menace]

Idling the engine particularly on a very cold morning ain't recomended by BMW - I would also be wary of leaving the car unattended with the engine running.

Not sure an insurance company wouldn't be happy if something happened to said car with engine on and the driver not around locked or otherwise.

Re: pouring water on the windshield is ok-ish IMO so long as it is not too warm and certainly not hot - still not something I would do personally.

Nothing like seeing a windshield shatter into a car - a right mess

 

[Tricky401]

Just a heads up regarding leaving the engine running, a car local to me was taken this morning. Unsure of make and model yet.

 

[Peter.V]

Idling the engine particularly on a very cold morning ain't recomended by BMW - I would also be wary of leaving the car unattended with the engine running.

Not sure an insurance company wouldn't be happy if something happened to said car with engine on and the driver not around locked or otherwise.

Re: pouring water on the windshield is ok-ish IMO so long as it is not too warm and certainly not hot - still not something I would do personally.

Nothing like seeing a windshield shatter into a car - a right mess

Good luck for any insurance company that tries to prove it's your fault the car was taken...
you have both keys in your pocket, broken glass on your drive...

 

[OneTwenty]

Idling the engine particularly on a very cold morning ain't recomended by BMW - I would also be wary of leaving the car unattended with the engine running.

Not sure an insurance company wouldn't be happy if something happened to said car with engine on and the driver not around locked or otherwise.

Re: pouring water on the windshield is ok-ish IMO so long as it is not too warm and certainly not hot - still not something I would do personally.

Nothing like seeing a windshield shatter into a car - a right mess

Good luck for any insurance company that tries to prove it's your fault the car was taken...
you have both keys in your pocket, broken glass on your drive...

Beat me to it, they would have no chance.

 

[Paul CS]

And to add...

http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=80382&p=1033990&hilit=cold+idle#p1033990

Paul

 

[Timewarp]

If you drive off without the key present the engine will never turn off. The thief would not however be able to restart the car. He'd just have a pestering warning on the dash saying that the key isn't present while he is driving it.

^ this.

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