[chris_135i]

Hi Guys

After reading through many threads about brake pads I'm confused...

I will be doing disc and pads on my car this year, sometime around 2nd quarter but unsure what to go for.

I want something fast road orientated that's better than OEM.

I had DS2500's on my last car and thought they were good.

What's the best bang for your buck?

 

[Rjudgey]

DS2500 are good pads for the track but for the road are illegal and will invalidate your insurance.

I've found the Pagid standard pads to be pretty good and not pricey unless you are treating every corner as a race on a track the brakes with Pagid pads have more than enough stopping power. You should only need to go to DS2500 or Mintex 1166 if your on race track, I've used EBC red stuff which helps keep brake dust down and doesn't wear out the disks as much they're not much more aggressive as in biting power but they are road legal and won't affect your insurance.

 

[markhurley]

I would go for
Endless pads - if you do track days and fast rd - most hardcore imo
DS2500 - if you do track days and fast rd - semi hardcore imo but I've had them wreak wheels and disks
EBC yellow stuff - low dust good for track days and fast rd - good alrounder love them
EBC red stuff - low dust and are close to oem imo - average fast rd pad not for me
Or just oem pads which are plenty good enough for all of the above.
I'm sure there are more but I've not tried any others so can't comment on them.

Yellow stuff are good money for value and we have a site sponsor for EBC much cheapness

Ta

 

[Rustle]

What about pagid blue (rs29)? They do a fitment for the 135i and everyone preaches their awesomeness at road / track duties and longevity. Pricey though.

Also bear in mind most of the performance pads (ds2500/ rs29 etc) don't accommodate the oem brake wear sensors if that's important to you.

I test drove a track spec dc2 integra last weekend which had carbon lorraine rc5+ on it. Man they were awesome. Sounded like you could hear the discs wearing out, but very very effective.

The rent4ring swift hire cars use endless pads. Kinda like the rc5+ in their nature and effectiveness. Breathe on them and you do an endo.

 

[markhurley]

Hi Guys

After reading through many threads about brake pads I'm confused...

I will be doing disc and pads on my car this year, sometime around 2nd quarter but unsure what to go for.

I want something fast road orientated that's better than OEM.

I had DS2500's on my last car and thought they were good.

What's the best bang for your buck?

I can do you a deal on these if your doing rears as well

http://babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=82198

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[chris_135i]

Hi Guys

After reading through many threads about brake pads I'm confused...

I will be doing disc and pads on my car this year, sometime around 2nd quarter but unsure what to go for.

I want something fast road orientated that's better than OEM.

I had DS2500's on my last car and thought they were good.

What's the best bang for your buck?

I can do you a deal on these if your doing rears as well

http://babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=82198

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Thanks mate but I will source brand new BMWP discs when the time comes.

 

[chris_135i]

I would go for
Endless pads - if you do track days and fast rd - most hardcore imo
DS2500 - if you do track days and fast rd - semi hardcore imo but I've had them wreak wheels and disks
EBC yellow stuff - low dust good for track days and fast rd - good alrounder love them
EBC red stuff - low dust and are close to oem imo - average fast rd pad not for me
Or just oem pads which are plenty good enough for all of the above.
I'm sure there are more but I've not tried any others so can't comment on them.

Yellow stuff are good money for value and we have a site sponsor for EBC much cheapness

Ta

Thanks for this reply. Very helpful

 

[docwra]

What about pagid blue (rs29)? They do a fitment for the 135i and everyone preaches their awesomeness at road / track duties and longevity. Pricey though.
Also bear in mind most of the performance pads (ds2500/ rs29 etc) don't accommodate the oem brake wear sensors if that's important to you.

I test drove a track spec dc2 integra last weekend which had carbon lorraine rc5+ on it. Man they were awesome. Sounded like you could hear the discs wearing out, but very very effective.

The rent4ring swift hire cars use endless pads. Kinda like the rc5+ in their nature and effectiveness. Breathe on them and you do an endo.

Listen to this man, no offence but as soon as anyone recommends EBC you need to ask what else they have tried.

DS2500's are fine if you arent going on track but having run RC5+ and RS29 on two cars at the same time I can honestly say they are astonishing, the RC5+ has more initial bite but both just go on for ever and are noticeably better than the less expensive options, Carbotech has also been recommended to me.

 

[Rich196]

What about pagid blue (rs29)? They do a fitment for the 135i and everyone preaches their awesomeness at road / track duties and longevity. Pricey though.
Also bear in mind most of the performance pads (ds2500/ rs29 etc) don't accommodate the oem brake wear sensors if that's important to you.

I test drove a track spec dc2 integra last weekend which had carbon lorraine rc5+ on it. Man they were awesome. Sounded like you could hear the discs wearing out, but very very effective.

The rent4ring swift hire cars use endless pads. Kinda like the rc5+ in their nature and effectiveness. Breathe on them and you do an endo.

Listen to this man, no offence but as soon as anyone recommends EBC you need to ask what else they have tried.

DS2500's are fine if you arent going on track but having run RC5+ and RS29 on two cars at the same time I can honestly say they are astonishing, the RC5+ has more initial bite but both just go on for ever and are noticeably better than the less expensive options, Carbotech has also been recommended to me.

This!! Carbotech are good love their pads, I think "THETYRANT" on here does them. Awesome service I would use again. RS29's on my old 135 or docwra current 135 were great sustained track used with no issues, and didnt kill disc or sound awful. I beleive they did take OEM wear sensor too.

Personally I hate the DS2500 they feel wooden have no feedback, and give me no confidence in stopping or modulation. However they do work, but im not sure I can bare to track the car on them and will probably go to carbotech but I do fansy trying endless. An as discs for my current car are cheap it might be better to buy disc eating pads.

 

[markhurley]

What about pagid blue (rs29)? They do a fitment for the 135i and everyone preaches their awesomeness at road / track duties and longevity. Pricey though.
Also bear in mind most of the performance pads (ds2500/ rs29 etc) don't accommodate the oem brake wear sensors if that's important to you.

I test drove a track spec dc2 integra last weekend which had carbon lorraine rc5+ on it. Man they were awesome. Sounded like you could hear the discs wearing out, but very very effective.

The rent4ring swift hire cars use endless pads. Kinda like the rc5+ in their nature and effectiveness. Breathe on them and you do an endo.

Listen to this man, no offence but as soon as anyone recommends EBC you need to ask what else they have tried.

DS2500's are fine if you arent going on track but having run RC5+ and RS29 on two cars at the same time I can honestly say they are astonishing, the RC5+ has more initial bite but both just go on for ever and are noticeably better than the less expensive options, Carbotech has also been recommended to me.

Have you tried EBC's in recent times ?

EBC's have come a long way with there brakes they used to be complete turd but give the yellow stuff a try you might be pleasantly surprised, I forgot to mention performance friction pads I had them on my e46 m3 and they were decent,for now I will stick with the endless pads for track work and oem for the rd. I've only tried the ones I listed but if you find something your happy with why bother changing .

Mark

 

[Twenny]

I honestly have no idea what you guys are going on about - feels wooden - no feedback - no confidence etc etc?? I genuinely envy you guys that have this understanding and feeling for such things, not just brakes but handling and suspensions, performance, engines the list goes on and on. I just repeat stuff I read or you guys say to me and hope it's correct so I don't sound too stupid amongst you guys.

Brakes? Me? When I hit the brakes they stop!! That's it!!! That's as far as my understanding goes!!

Push pedal car stops,
push harder car stops quicker

I feel like such a noob.

Oh but I've bought and I'm going to fit textar discs front and back and Pagid pads once these ****ty wanky clicky mtec grooved fronts are worn out lol

2010 E82 125i modded by Babybmw.net

 

[docwra]

EBC's have come a long way with there brakes they used to be complete turd but give the yellow stuff a try you might be pleasantly surprised, I forgot to mention performance friction pads I had them on my e46 m3 and they were decent,for now I will stick with the endless pads for track work and oem for the rd. I've only tried the ones I listed but if you find something your happy with why bother changing .

The last line, and to some extent what Twenny is saying is kind of the issue for me.

People ask for a recommendation and quite rightly existing users will recommend what they are using if they are happy with it, and by definition if they are happy its unlikely they will be trying the alternatives, I mean, why would you?

The problem is that you then get quite a narrow opinion - yellowstuff may well be a better pad than Mintex 1144 but I can tell you they arent a patch on CL05+, RS29, Project Mu HC or Carbotechs. I know, Ive used them all (apart from Carbotech) as well as DS2500, DS3000, aforementioned Mintex, EBC Green and Red, black diamond, various OE and probably some others Ive forgotten.

Similarly tyres and suspension (who buys more than 2 sets of suspension for the same car?), people will be quick to recommend what they are using but they may only have one other, or even worse, no comparitors other than standard.

 

[Rustle]

I'm still running OEM pads, my 2nd set on the front. They have so far worked fine for track with road tyres, though the first set did leave deposits and crumbled in the centre of the pad. This summer I'll be using semi slicks and I expect the extra forces they will demand to test the oem pads, thus expecting to need an upgrade? Thing is, performance pads come with excellent brake performance (for their specific intended application) but numerous compromises that range from road manners / cold bite, to heat issues. The 135i / BMWP brake piston seals may be prone so degradation under excessive heat, but whether I'll ever put that stress on them ever only time will tell.

I'm also about to be on my 3rd suspension set up soon!

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[markhurley]

EBC's have come a long way with there brakes they used to be complete turd but give the yellow stuff a try you might be pleasantly surprised, I forgot to mention performance friction pads I had them on my e46 m3 and they were decent,for now I will stick with the endless pads for track work and oem for the rd. I've only tried the ones I listed but if you find something your happy with why bother changing .

The last line, and to some extent what Twenny is saying is kind of the issue for me.

People ask for a recommendation and quite rightly existing users will recommend what they are using if they are happy with it, and by definition if they are happy its unlikely they will be trying the alternatives, I mean, why would you?

The problem is that you then get quite a narrow opinion - yellowstuff may well be a better pad than Mintex 1144 but I can tell you they arent a patch on CL05+, RS29, Project Mu HC or Carbotechs. I know, Ive used them all (apart from Carbotech) as well as DS2500, DS3000, aforementioned Mintex, EBC Green and Red, black diamond, various OE and probably some others Ive forgotten.

Similarly tyres and suspension (who buys more than 2 sets of suspension for the same car?), people will be quick to recommend what they are using but they may only have one other, or even worse, no comparitors other than standard.

Fair enough but I'm assuming we are talking fast rd pads here ? The like's of RS29s ain't really a cheap alternative to say oem pads and are not really necessary for the rd.
If it's just track pads then fair play , I like the endless pads they do what they say endless braking lol , I've done countless laps of the ring and oem pads are sufficient ( lucky to get a clear lap these days) not unless you are going for lap records
I'm sure if I was at say Bedford every weekend I would maybe try something like the pagids but for now I'm happy with the setups I use, again if your happy with your setup why change you could spend loads of ££££ for nothing this is what this forums are for helping others from there own experience
Has anyone tried endless or the EBC yellows ? it's hard for me to understand how people can say something is **** when they haven't tried them.

I don't want to fall in to the trap of ..because I like them it means they are the best because that's not the case it's always nice to have different opinions and next time around I might try some of the above brands

Mark

 

[docwra]

For sure you only need the mental expensive pads for track, but they feel better on the road as well, whether its enough to justify the price difference is a personal call.