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E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:28 pm

Ok to follow on from my Ohlins thread I thought I would start a new one about my camber plate project and here it is :)

So today Ive been busy with some machining on the laser cut plates I had done for my camber plate project, for those not in the know these fit on top of front suspension top mounts to shift them across and give more negative camber, these are just my prototype ones and I think ive been a bit conservative with the offset compared to others ive seen but still im hoping they should give approx -1.5degrees along with M3 LCA I have, plan is to get -2degrees but will need a revision to plate I think, but will see once I get them fitted.

Quick pic below of progress so far, just need a couple more of the capitive bolts out of my topmounts as only had 4 in my spares and they can go on, also ignore the nasty paint job as I just gave them a dusting to prevent rusting and have been handling them before paint was dry!...will test fit as they are and see what camber they give and go from there, might start making them to sell but we will see.

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by jonwilli » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:25 pm

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by rob180bhp » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:27 pm

Awesome work
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Post by marco_polo » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:29 pm

Nice work.

Presumably these will raise the nose by 6mm, or whatever, for those without coilies?
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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:37 pm

marco_polo wrote:Nice work.

Presumably these will raise the nose by 6mm, or whatever, for those without coilies?
Yes these ones are 5mm thick so will lift the nose a tadge, prob about same as the drop from fitting m3 lca's.
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Post by jonwilli » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:37 pm

How much do you reckon you'll have to charge if you start making them to sell? Think with the exchange rate as it is the Dinan ones with postage, import etc would be close to £170 or more! That's a fair bit for some plate steel and bolts!
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Post by markhurley » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:49 pm

Looking good mate 8)
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Post by Danny_Boy » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:15 pm

Well interested matey!

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Post by krisabf » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:23 pm

Yeah I'm interested too! :o
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Post by THETYRANT » Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:30 am

jonwilli wrote:How much do you reckon you'll have to charge if you start making them to sell? Think with the exchange rate as it is the Dinan ones with postage, import etc would be close to £170 or more! That's a fair bit for some plate steel and bolts!
Im not sure yet as need to look at the costs etc once I finalise the design, sure it will be a lot cheaper than getting Dinan ones over from states :)

Never got chance to test fit this weekend due to family stuff but will get them repainted today and test fit tonight :)

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Sonic1506 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:36 am

Why did you make them, when they can be bought off the shelf? I'm curious. Silverproject sells them for 95 Euros, as one example. Vorshlag also makes a set.

https://silverproject.eu/en/shop/bmw/ca ... coilovers/

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by THETYRANT » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:59 am

Sonic1506 wrote:Why did you make them, when they can be bought off the shelf? I'm curious. Silverproject sells them for 95 Euros, as one example. Vorshlag also makes a set.

https://silverproject.eu/en/shop/bmw/ca ... coilovers/
Why not ? those in your link are not the same thing they are fully adjustable solid mounted complete top mount replacements and not best quality from what i can see, pretty colours though :D, Dinan plates are probably nearest to what ive done and the cost for me to make these is minimal while fitting in around other jobs, also if it works out it could be a product i might be able to sell through work to help others out with a cost effective solution for those wanting a set amount of camber and not fully adjustable, which isnt really needed for many.

I wouldnt want to run solid mounts on a road car again either, im getting old and like things quiet and smooth which the OEM rubber mounted version is always going to best for :D

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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Sonic1506 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:11 am

THETYRANT wrote:Why not ? those in your link are not the same thing they are fully adjustable solid mounted complete top mount replacements and not best quality from what i can see, pretty colours though :D, Dinan plates are probably nearest to what ive done and the cost for me to make these is minimal while fitting in around other jobs, also if it works out it could be a product i might be able to sell through work to help others out with a cost effective solution for those wanting a set amount of camber and not fully adjustable, which isnt really needed for many.

I wouldnt want to run solid mounts on a road car again either, im getting old and like things quiet and smooth which the OEM rubber mounted version is always going to best for :D

Ian
I was curious as to why you made it when something can be had off the shelf, that's all, rather than an attack on you.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=648774

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Post by THETYRANT » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:23 am

I know what is available ive looked at all options out there over the years :), also have you seen the prices! ? :shock:

Nearest thing ive seen on the shelf to do what i require (as below) are the Dinan plates, but i felt price was out of proportion for what you get although i think i know why due the hardware involved as ive not yet been able to find an off the shelf supplier for the splined/captive studs that fix them to car, ive used my own which you need to remove from stock mounts anyhow to fit this type of plate so no big issue, but the Dinan plates come with them ready fitted which is neat touch but i suspect jacks up price, or at least maybe did at start as im sure i read they were buying stock mounts to get the studs when they first started making their plates.

Using my contacts and machines at work i felt i could make my own easily enough and for very little outlay if i fitted it around other jobs, its a nice project and i can make them exactly how i want them and engineer them to do exactly what i want as well, my requirements are to obtain from -1.5 to -2 degress of negative camber (a i feel that is more than enough for road car) but also i wanted OEM quality NVH and durabilty so by using the OEM top mounts/bearings i know reliability and refinement will be as good as you can get :)


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Re: E8x Camber plate project

Post by Sonic1506 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:27 pm

I see. Interesting.

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